I wish I had actually paid more attention. After the application of the hacks I restarted and checked for updates. The main upgrade to 10 update was there in the listing but SEEMED to already be selected as hidden without my input. Sadly I cannot 100% claim that I did not hide the thing out of habit but do not believe that I did.

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I've sat on my hands wanting to ask this but in light of recent MS skulduggery I can't any longer, are these not the same registry edits that Steve Gibson's freeware 'Never 10' makes (albeit his may be more comprehensive)?

The technical details for Never 10 can be found here:
https://www.grc.com/never10/details.htm

Gosh, Dobbie, thanks for that Gibson link.

Folks, what I have done has kept 10 off both my and GG's machines, so far. All Win7 updates on both our systems have to be done manually, none of the automatic update garbage (my opinion). Then, when I request the updates, I always look for KB2952664 and KB3035583. They are almost always there even though I keep hiding them. I simply untick them and proceed with the other updates. So far it has worked perfectly without any hacking or anything, but you have got to keep alert and vigilant whenever manually checking for the latest updates.
Acadia

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Just took a look at Never10 and it seems like a nice little utility. It is a 'stand alone' program and needs no installation, just double click on the downloaded file.

Never10 does exactly the same thing as Ed Bott's registry hacks to which Patty linked except that, if ran again, it will offer to re-enable the upgrade.

Thanks Doddie. This little utility will simplify things for the novice. I had already made a second copy of the two Ed Bott registry hacks to reverse the settings if I wanted to do so but it is nice to have things automated sometimes.

As a note... If you use either method, Ed Bott's registry hacks or the Never10 utility, you should restart your system for the changes to take affect.

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Indeed.
Acadia

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Excellent. Even better!

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Computer Haven Administrator

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Mr. Spock

Sorry but I am duplicating this post in two threads as it applies to both.

I just tried an experiment...

1) I ran Never10 to disable the upgrade to Windows 10 in Windows 7. (I have not attached my Win 8.1 drive to test in that version of Windows but would expect the same results.)

2) I un-hid update KB3035583 and allowed it to install.

3) Restarted my system and there was no GWX icon in the notification area.

4) I manually checked Windows Updates and there was no listing for the dreaded KB3035583.

So here is my recommendation:

1) Run Never10 to disable the upgrade to Windows 10.

2) Next time that KB3035583 shows up just go ahead and allow it to install. It will not be allowed to be active.

Only time will tell but it seems that Windows Updates sees that it has been applied but the registry hacks within Never10 (Or Ed Bott's manual registry hacks; same thing)prevents it from being active. Even if it did happen to become active somehow the second registry hack prevents an automated upgrade of the OS. The two hacks cover this situation from two different directions. It seems sufficient.

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Another nice feature of Never10 is its ability to check for, and remove if requested, any setup files for Windows 10 that GWX may have silently downloaded.

Source: https://www.grc.com/never10.htm

Until MS gets wind, and does a check for it. They are just arrogant enough to do it.