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 Post Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:31 pm 
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I just finished running a Win 7 image restore and lost a number of things, like programs in the start menu for one. Is this normal in an image as I was under the impression that it was an image: bit to bit exactly as before?

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An image backup should indeed be a bit for bit deal. When restored, it should be in the exact state that it was in when the image backup happened.
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I agree with Steve that it should be bit for bit but would have to ask if you initiated the image restore from a restore disk (or install disk) or through Windows. If through Windows I cannot say one way or the other on whether it just might maintain the settings from the image or the install of Windows from which it was launched. I would hope that it would put everything back as per the image but cannot state that as fact.

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I thought it was bit by bit.

I tried to use the restore function from within windows but it BSOD'd.

I used system restore/image restore from the Windows 7 OS disk as that is the only disk that will boot into a UFI or Boot environment.

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WOW! That seems strange that an image restore from within Windows would fail yet one from the install disk would work as Windows, once installed, can handle many drive aspects that the install disk cannot.

To be honest I still don't really get the UFI deal as once Windows starts its load the Bios is pretty much out of the picture. UFI( I'm sure I'm wrong but somehow those letters just don't seem right...) Anyway, I know what you refer to and it is still a BIOS. It is structured a bit different than older BIOS systems but is not new. Ran an ISRock mobo 5 years ago that used it.

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I don't get problems with ACRONIS. Well worth the money.

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WOW! That seems strange that an image restore from within Windows would fail yet one from the install disk would work as Windows, once installed, can handle many drive aspects that the install disk cannot.

To be honest I still don't really get the UFI deal as once Windows starts its load the Bios is pretty much out of the picture. UFI( I'm sure I'm wrong but somehow those letters just don't seem right...) Anyway, I know what you refer to and it is still a BIOS. It is structured a bit different than older BIOS systems but is not new. Ran an ISRock mobo 5 years ago that used it.


The problem is to get Windows to load, UFI does not use the "normal" boot.mgr and has its own. I will get to how I got this to work later today, and you will perhaps understand a little better what is going on.

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An image backup should indeed be a bit for bit deal. When restored, it should be in the exact state that it was in when the image backup happened.
-steve

And again thanks Steve.

Could this have happened because I had to change the video card? I lost two GeForce 560's for no apparent reason, just stopped working, one after the other in two weeks time while trying to get this restore done.

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AAAAAHHHHHHHH!!! This computer stuff is so complicated. If only someone could invent a simple computer that simply works they would deserve, in my opinion, to become 100 times wealthier than Bill Gates. :mad2:

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I'll agree with you there Bill, my new Notebook is as dead as a Dodo, got to wait till tomorrow before I can sort out the warranty. Everything OK Friday start up Saturday morning and problems. :(

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Whoa there... the BIOS is not out of the picture once Windows loads. Where does that idea come from? Every single input/output function goes through the BIOS, which then passes to Windows. That means every single motion of the mouse, keyboard, etc. It is very much present at all times.

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Then I will stand corrected. It has always been my impression that the BIOS just gets things going and the OS takes over when loaded.

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Acadia wrote:
AAAAAHHHHHHHH!!! This computer stuff is so complicated. If only someone could invent a simple computer that simply works they would deserve, in my opinion, to become 100 times wealthier than Bill Gates. :mad2:

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Atari Computers did it in the 1980's with their ST series of systems. Atari Computers is not to be mistaken for Atari games. The Atari ST operating system was actually totally immune to infections as it was on a chip. The type of chip was called an EPROM for Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory. You could add a LOT of bells and whistles that would load from floppy or hard drive but the core OS loaded in a matter of a few seconds and, since it was stored on read only memory, could not really be infected.

Brings back memories but would be a topic for another thread. ;) Mayhaps I'll start one.

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jaylach wrote:
Then I will stand corrected. It has always been my impression that the BIOS just gets things going and the OS takes over when loaded.


That's because the BIOS gives you that impression. ;)

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